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Pre-mades vs solo ques can cause the Duty Finder to have an aneurysm. It depends on the circumstances, but a lot of small and stupid things can cause the system to get mucked up.

Pre-mades vs solo ques can cause the Duty Finder to have an aneurysm

Pre-mades vs solo ques can cause the Duty Finder to have an aneurysm. It depends on the circumstances, but a lot of small and stupid things can cause the system to get mucked up.

 

I don't know how accurate any of this information is, but, from what I've been hearing around the watering hole, It seems that the way the Duty Finder is set up and continually "locking" the same groups together has a lot to do with how spots get filled in Seize. I dunno though, so take this with a grain of salt.

 

Supposedly, the Duty Finder takes the first 24 people from the same Grand Company that qued and puts them together, but, if there is a pre-made in the mix, it can have trouble filling the blanks and can cause a lot of problems, especially if the pre-made is not a complete pre-made. For example, say you have a Pre-made of 7 in que. Duty Finder is searching for one person to fill the eighth spot. You guys qued as a pair, and it suddenly has an extra person it can't fit in, so Duty Finder gets all gummed up because it doesn't know what to do. You guys break up your pre-made pair of two, and Duty Finder slots the first person who qued between the two of you in the free spot. The other person gets the shaft.

 

In your case, the 15 minute delay was probably because you missed the match. Notice that a seize match is roughly 15-20 minutes (depending on how fast one team is winning, of course)? That's not a coincidence. Basically, the Duty Finder tried to find a spot for both of you in the same party, but couldn't. Keep in mind that even if there had been an open space in Alliance A and C, the Duty Finder could not split you up to fill both spots. It runs on the PvE set up, so it can't compute that kind of thinking. So, when it tried and failed to slot you both, it gave up and went ahead with the match by filling the spots with solo quers (even if they qued after you). Now, most of us have noticed that, in seize, when we repeatedly que immediately after each match we get slotted with the same familiar faces (which can be good or very bad). That's partly because of the limited number of PvP'ers available at any given time of the day. This same feature (or side-effect of the way Duty Finder is forming groups) would mean that you'd have to wait for the match to end before Duty Finder could slot you into a spot. Whichever one of you qued first, gets the first free spot. The other person gets left behind until Duty Finder can find another group, or someone quits the group you're in.

 

How likely this is to happen depends on how many people are available to play PvP on your server. If you only have 30 people from your Grand Company trying to que at that particular time of day, than six of them will always be in limbo, waiting for the match to end or a spot opens up. The more people que, the more people have a longer wait to get in. The only time that wait would shorten is if the number of people trying to que from your Grand Company reaches 88. Then the Duty Finder can make two full groups instead of one with spare change... only, there's still a problem. The Duty Finder still has to match you against opponents. So, if 88 people are qued from Adders and, but Mael and Flames only have 24 each, one full group of Adders get's left in the dust waiting for ques from an entirely different Grand Company.

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