The Leading FFXIV Gil Seller - Uffxiv.com!

Knock back moves are not necessary to the full dps rotation of any class. It's more of a tool than a dps asset, and can easily be ignored or saved for when you might actually need it.

The FFXIV Machinist should have been kicked for being an idiot

Knock back moves are not necessary to the full dps rotation of any class. It's more of a tool than a dps asset, and can easily be ignored or saved for when you might actually need it (like interrupting an attack, or temporarily stalling an accidental pull by pushing the target you pulled in the tank's direction.). The bigger issue is that people who use knockbacks willy-nilly within dungeons are developing a bad habit that can severely F* up a Tank or position dependent Dps.

 

Sure, War's and Drks can just spam their respective aoe's, but Pld's cannot do this to the same effect (Flash deals no dmg and has lower threat gen, so, as much as you can continually spam it, it does not hold aggro to the same effect as overpower or unleash). Further, each Tank's aoe has an effective range that is shorter than any in-game knockback. Meaning any target knocked out of your range is getting less threat gen than the targets that are close by. This is not a big deal when your dps is all melee or has lower potency attacks like a Machinist or Bard, but if you have a high dmg AOE in your dps (like Black Mage or Summoner) the target that is outside of your AOE range, or outside of your immediate enmity combo range, is at HIGH risk of being pulled by peripheral dmg done by casters. Especially if it's a big pull with 4 or more targets.

 

On 4 or more pulls, every tank's enmity gen combo only grants enmity bonus on the 2nd or 3rd attack, which means you only have 2 attacks to split enmity ffxiv gil between your enemies. That means that for every one enmity rotation half of the targets in a 4 or more pull are going without direct enmity gen (being held purely by peripheral aggro by tank aoes). Knock-backs only make this problem worse, because you might be forced to skip a target because some idiot knocked him out of your range.

 

For high-end tanks, this is a bigger problem because they like to maximize their dps output as well as hold enmity. Knock-backs make this difficult to do because you might have to interrupt your own rotation to throw in a ranged attack or an extra AOE to compensate for missing a direct enmity combo move on the target that got pushed away.

 

Further, Dragoon and MNK's have position specific moves that are difficult to get dmg bonuses on if the target is constantly being turned or moved. I can tell you first hand that the full Dps rotation for Dragoon's is actually quite complicated, and 3 moves require specific positioning if you want to optimize their dps. 6 moves (7 at lvl 60) require all the targets to be close by if the Dragoon wants to optimize their overall dps.

 

DR: The use of the knock-back as part of a regular rotation only gets in the way, and actively nerfs the dps output of tanks and melee dps (and technically casters if the knock-back pushes the target outside of caster AOE range). So, when the Machinist said he was "just doing his job" he was actually doing the exact opposite. Dps should be making targets die quicker, not slower.

Related News
26
Jun

Final Fantasy XIV Relic zeta will hold you over until level 55

Once I hit lvl 60 it took me 2 days to get the lvl 180 law bow. The 180 law bow is unquestionably better than the 170 Bismark EX bow drop, but ravana bow is the best (ilvl 190).

14
Aug

Final Fantasy XIV ARR: The logic behind Warrior and Dark Knight getting their stances at 30

When I leveled my Final Fantasy XIV Paladin about 2 years ago, I had 0 aggro issues. No class could pull off me in dungeons 30 to 40. (Nor before or after for that matter lol)

28
Jul

Nael van Darnus was built using a male Elezen skeleton in FFXIV 1.0

For what it's worth, a chunk of us made it to Fan Festival and Rocl flat out asked people when he got the chance. If I remember correctly, Koji Fox suggested that Yoshida field the question and Yoshida stated, "Man! MAN! Always man!"

19
Jul

Final Fantasy XIV: The cause of friction between roles has nothing to do with the roles itself

Have you played a tank post 50? On the second ffxiv boss of Sohm Al I can out DPS most actual DPS classes on the second boss because I can stay in deliverance most of the time

22
Jul

Final Fantasy XIV: Defensive cooldown help

Like I said I'm not a Dark Knight (Final Fantasy XIV) expert, you're not a Paladin and don't have as many CDs to cycle, so you'll want to take more advantage of breaks in damage, such as a FF14 White Mage(WHM) using Holy which stuns the mobs, etc.

29
Jul

Here's a rundown of the process(ffxiv new majestic gear by chance)

Zodiac I think of this as the collect tons of stuff stage. Based off a wiki, you need over 400k FFXIV Gil, 80k Company Seals, 1600 Allagan Tomestone of Poetics, drops from 16 dungeons

Leave A Reply

Final Fantasy XIV Top News